Monday, January 31, 2005
The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame (cont.)
I've done some reaserch; the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation is responsible for the induction process. Their mailing address is:
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation
1290 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10104
You can write them, and I urge you to do so, to implore them to induct those acts that have been passed over. My list so far:
Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
DEVO
Brian Eno
The Pretenders
Ted Nugent
Yes
Genesis
I am going to ask them to impliment some sort of recognition or archive for influential bands and artists that, for lack of sales, won't ever be inducted, but none the less have contributed to the art form in a substanial way, i.e. Captain Beefheart, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Kraftwerk, Bauhaus, Motorhead, Arthur Lee (Love), The Ventures. Please help me build the list, as I'm sure I'll leave some out. I will ask for it to be named for Tony Alva, who's idea it was. I may even use his given name.
I've done some reaserch; the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation is responsible for the induction process. Their mailing address is:
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation
1290 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10104
You can write them, and I urge you to do so, to implore them to induct those acts that have been passed over. My list so far:
Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
DEVO
Brian Eno
The Pretenders
Ted Nugent
Yes
Genesis
I am going to ask them to impliment some sort of recognition or archive for influential bands and artists that, for lack of sales, won't ever be inducted, but none the less have contributed to the art form in a substanial way, i.e. Captain Beefheart, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Kraftwerk, Bauhaus, Motorhead, Arthur Lee (Love), The Ventures. Please help me build the list, as I'm sure I'll leave some out. I will ask for it to be named for Tony Alva, who's idea it was. I may even use his given name.
Comments:
Screw the rock and roll hall of fame. Yes, they inducted the Velvet Underground, but only because they were afraid of Lou, like everyone else. What real rock and roller would want to be a member of any club that would have them? Screw it. If Lemmy ain't in it it ain't rock and roll.
Let's start our own Hall, based outside of Atlanta. "Alvaville."
Let's start our own Hall, based outside of Atlanta. "Alvaville."
I can imagine that being inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame is sort of like getting an Oscar. Most actors will shun the attention publically, but they are humbled when given the award. I'm ambivialant about the Hall in the same way I am about the Oscars. I'm happy when they get it right, and outraged when they get it wrong.
The R&R Hall is still young enough to become credible with the right emphasis. Jackson's efforts are good ones I think. We should try to influence it to become more credible if we can. If it goes the other way, than mocking it is in order.
I like Chris's comment re: "...what real R&R'er would want to join a club". True to the nature of the art form that's for sure, but the induction ceramonies that I have watched have been truly entertaining TV. The harder the powers that be try to normalize this room full of misfits, the more comical the results. A room full of extremely creative and chemically damaged brians. They might be able to get the actors to behave, but it's just never gonna happen with the musicians. Bringing all these folks together is like inviting Hunter S. Thompson to my wife's bookclub. I think they're enjoying themselves from what I can see. No harm in that.
Overall, I think everybody likes to be recognized for their work, even Lemmy, and I'd vote the lovable wart faced animal into into Alvaville anyday.
The R&R Hall is still young enough to become credible with the right emphasis. Jackson's efforts are good ones I think. We should try to influence it to become more credible if we can. If it goes the other way, than mocking it is in order.
I like Chris's comment re: "...what real R&R'er would want to join a club". True to the nature of the art form that's for sure, but the induction ceramonies that I have watched have been truly entertaining TV. The harder the powers that be try to normalize this room full of misfits, the more comical the results. A room full of extremely creative and chemically damaged brians. They might be able to get the actors to behave, but it's just never gonna happen with the musicians. Bringing all these folks together is like inviting Hunter S. Thompson to my wife's bookclub. I think they're enjoying themselves from what I can see. No harm in that.
Overall, I think everybody likes to be recognized for their work, even Lemmy, and I'd vote the lovable wart faced animal into into Alvaville anyday.
Jason,
You MUST post your nomination draft here or on your blog. If all you say is true, it may be never that Bootsy and Co. get the nod into the Hall. P-Funk would be a first rounder into Alvaville HOF.
You MUST post your nomination draft here or on your blog. If all you say is true, it may be never that Bootsy and Co. get the nod into the Hall. P-Funk would be a first rounder into Alvaville HOF.
P-Funk: George, Bootsy, and Bernie et al, are comfortably residing in the Hall, inducted in '94. I think what Jason means, is that his experiences in forwarding that nomination brought him close to the stink of the process.
I would like to hear some of his thoughts on who's been robbed thus far....Donovan anyone?
I would like to hear some of his thoughts on who's been robbed thus far....Donovan anyone?
Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath,
Sabbath is where we came in with this convrsation Jason, but I agree with you on the Monkees and the Hip Hop founding fathers, I know Tony will agree with Eric B. & Rakim, and nobody can deny RUN DMC or the Beasties. Mt feeling is that RUN MC will get in in a few years.
And that brings us back to dough, ha ha. Seriuosly though, that's what we're on about, what to do for the seriously influential artist who's sales and or career don't stack up. We can't forget Afrika Bambatta, or Brian Eno, or Thin Lizzy.....
"Cool... I don't get upset. Kick a hole the the speaker then I jet. Back to the lab, without a mic to grab..." Some serious shit.
A home for non-selling, yet influential and talented acts. That's the idea of Alvaville or whatever we call it.
Tony Alva
A home for non-selling, yet influential and talented acts. That's the idea of Alvaville or whatever we call it.
Tony Alva
# posted by 
: 12:59 PM
: 12:59 PM
Late eighties post-punk set the stage for nineties 'alternative'. In addition to the Smiths, bands that should be inducted:
Husker Du
The Replacements
REM
Jane's Addiction
All of them have aged remarkably well (well, except for REM which morphed into a whiny, sentimental band sometime in the early 90s, but their early work still was ground-breakingly original). Husker Du, in particular, sounds just as fresh when I listen to them now as they did back when I was in high school.
-Christy
Husker Du
The Replacements
REM
Jane's Addiction
All of them have aged remarkably well (well, except for REM which morphed into a whiny, sentimental band sometime in the early 90s, but their early work still was ground-breakingly original). Husker Du, in particular, sounds just as fresh when I listen to them now as they did back when I was in high school.
-Christy
# posted by : 4:39 PM
: 4:39 PM
Okay, well, then I'll get bolder ;-)
How about Sonic Youth? Maybe that's a stretch.
-Christy
How about Sonic Youth? Maybe that's a stretch.
-Christy
# posted by : 10:41 AM
: 10:41 AM
Black Sabbath and Lynyrd Skynyrd are in the now along with Blondie, Miles Davis, amd the sex pistols
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